MVRemix: Whats up with the Black Tibetan Knights..I heard it was supposed to be you, Ikon and Apathy, any details you can give me? Louis Logic:
That was an idea that Ikon came up with, and I guess it was something he'd referenced before on Jedi Mind Tricks projects, probably on their first album like using that phrasing, I think it's actually the Black Tibetan Magicians or something like that. It is something that we're planning on doing. It might have a different name by the time that it actually does materialize. Apathy, Ikon and I have discussed it and we are going to do it, it's just that right now we're up in the air on who exactly is going to produce it. Especially now because we had one beat set for it, and JJ was the producer. As you can see that thing has reached much further than just me. Wait, no it was Tibetan Black Magicians. But if anybody is up on the current development as far as Jedi Mind Tricks stylistically speaking...it probably won't be that anymore. I think they're moving towards just spitting some street stuff that isn't too over people's heads. They'll always have a little math and science in it because that's their thing. I think that they're trying to simplify it a little bit for people and just getting back to spitting like battle rhymes. So I think that they might even change the name of that project when it does come to fruition to correspond with that new change and protocol in terms of rhymes. I know Ikon has a project coming out called 'Vinnie Paz,' it's gonna be on Direct. It's like a street record but it has a Jedi Mind Tricks spin to it. There's still some intelligence behind it and the ever present sort of apocolyptic-holywater style that Jedi Mind Tricks and Ikon are credited with trademarking. They're mixing a little bit more of a rougher street element into it also. I mean, Ikon is a [emphasizes] huge Kool G Rap fan, so there's gonna be some street stuff for sure. And I think that will probably impact the Tibetan Black Magicians project. It will happen, and it will be the three of us. Probably Stoupe's gonna end up producing it now. Which should be delicious because Stoupe's beats are definitely out of control. I'm sure Celph wouldn't mind in getting involved in that as well and he's definitely held in a high regard with Superegular projects. I know they look forward to employing his talents on upcoming stuff so...
MVRemix: Is the material you recorded with Chops ever likely to surface? Louis Logic:
Are you referring to like the super old stuff? MVRemix: Yeah... Louis Logic:
Like the old demo's that I did with him? MVRemix: Yeah... Louis Logic:
Uh...no. [laughs] It can never surface, anybody that does have a copy should send it back to me right away as it is very embarrassing and old and humorous as well. Chops and I recently got a chance to build again, mixing down a single that will probably come out on Bronx Science. It's gonna be this kid, Big Jim Slade as the producer, Mountain Brothers on the record as well as another Philly group; Name, whose front man, Grand Agent, people have heard of probably. He did a joint with AG and has an album coming out soon. He's on it and then there's a song with Grand Agent and myself. So, yeah I did get a chance to build with Chops recently. Hadn't talk to him in some time, since we were roommates. Not on some un-friendly stuff just didn't work out as roommates. We're definitely still friends, he's a good guy. Maybe in the future I'll do something with Chops, I don't know.
MVRemix: Who are you planning on collaborating with and who would you like to? Louis Logic:
Who would I like to? I'd definitely like to do a joint with Em. I think he's like the greatest dude, but he's definitely a big fish, and unless I find myself a home on a major that probably won't happen.
But I would also like to do something with Thirstin. I dig him a lot, I think he's one of the few people who distinguishes himself so well as to have created a character. It's almost as like he's like a cartoon or something, he's so animated.
I also would like to do something with J-Zone, his beats are bananas yo. I'm hoping I can link up with him. Currently I am looking around as far as what I'm gonna be doing with my full length album, because I'm not so sure I want it to come out on an indy or not. So I've been talking to some A&R's and whatever, whose names will go unmentioned, just to investigate the possibilities. So anybody I do work with, it could turn out to be an opportunity because it might end up coming out on something a little bigger with more exposure, more copies, you know, spread more. That's the goal in the end you know. We all just want more people to hear our music, and maybe even make a nice living off of it. So you're not waking up in the morning to go to a miserable day job, you know ? We could all do without that. Spend our time just doing Hip Hop.
MVRemix: What are you working on right now ? Louis Logic:
Actually I'm working on like a few things all at once. Right now I'm putting together my full length album which will probably not come out on anything until I find a good home for it that I'm comfortable with. It'll definitely be with Superegular, I don't want anyone to be misinformed like those guys are my family and I will definitely not leave them behind. So even if it did come out on a major or something, I would do it through Superegular. I will not forget those guys because they're responsible in part for whatever notoriety that I've been able to get for myself. In the meantime, I plan on continuing to drop material.
I'll probably do an EP by myself, a Louis Logic EP. That will have some guest appearances and stuff on it because my album isn't going to have any guest appearances. There's probably gonna be one guest appearance which would be me and Ikon on something like 'Rump Song Part 2' or a sequel to 'Factotum.'
But I'm also doing an EP that's coming out on Superegular that's not just me, it's gonna be a team up. It's gonna be called 'The Odd Couple' starring Jay Love and Louis Logic. It's not the Jay Love that everyone knows from Large Professor and Masta Ace. It's an emcee out of White Plains, New York. Very dope. I think people will really be feeling it, I'd say 3/4 of the EP is done already. So it should be very soon that people will be hearing that. That'll probably be the next thing that comes out that I'm on.
MVRemix: What about new Jedi Mind Tricks/Amry Of The Pharoahes releases? Do you have any idea when they're likely to drop or details about them? And whether you're on them or not? Louis Logic:
Yeah, definitely. The Jedi album is all done, its been sent out to manufacturing and everything. It's gonna be coming out through Superegular/Landspeed on double vinyl and CD. It has got a slew of great guest appearances. I am on the album, they included the song 'Trinity' with L-Fudge and I. And they included this new song, I'm not sure of the title. I heard the album in its entirety but I didn't have a tracklisting when I heard it. But there's a new song that I'm on on the album. It's Ikon, Jus'Allah, me and a new guy named B.A.Barracus, who's probably gonna drop a 12" on Superegular also, and Diamondback of the Deadly Snakes on Tommy Boy is also on that song. The guest appearance list on that album is out of control and the beats are bangin'. They got Tragedy Khadafi on the album, 7L & Esoteric, Virtuoso, Bahamadia, Chief Kamachi. There's an Ikon/Chief Kamachi collabo on the album. I can't wait until that song comes out people are gonna be like "Dammmnnn!" It's such a good song. Mr. Lif's on the album, J-Treds, Mr. Len from Company Flow, it's just chocked full of dope people, it's gonna be a good experience man. And that should be probably the end of the summer I'd say. Everyone should definitely keep an eye out for the Jedi Mind Tricks album, I'm keeping an eye out for it. I don't even have a copy of it.
MVRemix: Is there anything you'd like to talk about that we haven't covered? Louis Logic:
Yeah, you know what, there is one thing. I've been doing a lot of thinking about people coming up like on the underground, getting a little love on the internet and with Indy records and everything and it seems like there's this weird backlash when people are able to expand into a bigger market and I think that's really weird. I don't see why the fans strike out against people if they're not doing something different, why diss 'em? But it seems like people are kind of snobby, they only like it if it's indy or whatever. I don't think it has anything to do with that, if you're a Hip Hop fan and you're really just about the music, why should it matter to you if suburban chicks in the middle of nowhere know what the record is. I mean you can't have all the good stuff just to yourself. And plus, if you were really a fan of someone, wouldn't you want them to be successful? It seems like kids want their artist to be like starving and such like. I see nothing wrong with someone making a living off of music if they're continuing to make high quality product. Who's gonna diss The Roots for instance? Those guys are Grammy winners. They're talented, you can't diss them just because they're big and they're all over MTV. So that would be my message. If you're really loyal to an artist, and they don't change their style up in such a way that compromises themselves, it shouldn't matter whether they're on an indy or a major and it seems like it does right now. Or, if they start experimenting with new styles, if it's not wack. Why diss 'em?
My man Esoteric take so much flack over one little line that he put on his record. That one where he goes "You're calling me a backpacker, that's proposterous, I push a lex and rock thousand dollar watches." It's not untrue, like I'm friends with Esoteric. He does drives a Lexus and he does have a thousand dollar watch, and maybe they don't care about that. But it was funny. People dismissed it and tried to say it was like any other commercial artist saying, "Oooh, I have lots of money." That's not what he was saying, he was saying it's ironic that people call him a backpacker when he has stuff which some of the artists who brag about having stuff don't actually have. Which is kinda funny. And I felt bad, because lots of kids were like "What, does he think he's jiggy now?" because he's not rhyming about double-tetra-hedron whatever anymore, you know what I mean? That shit disappoints me man, people can't rhyme about the same thing for the rest of their lives.
I'm really concerned because I enjoy the love that I have gotten from fans who are in the know. And I'm lucky that they've gotten the few things that I've put out so far, but I feel they may not be there if I find myself like a major or something. And I wouldn't want that, I would hope that they would still be fans if I was still making good music. So that's what I would say, that would be the last thing I would say to any fans, if I have fans, I don't know if I do. I've met a couple of people who may qualify as fans, but I'm not sure. I find it hard to look at things that way. I'm a regular guy who gets up and goes to work to do a job.
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