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Dreddy Kruger - conducted by Bill "Low Key" Heinzelman  

Dreddy Kruger: Thinking Outside The Box

November 2005

MVRemix: Yeah, definitely, cause I was looking at various message boards recently and all the backpack cats are going crazy over that Doom and RZA song. Even when they saw the artwork for the single, they were going crazy.

Dreddy Kruger: Yeah, thats what I'm saying. Just the talk of them two getting on a song together is crazy. And I wanted MF Doom on a RZA beat, not MF Doom on his own beat. You hear a lot of Doom beats already and I wanted something different. It was funny because MF Doom did some work with Devin over at Nature Sounds with his Metal Finger albums. So he had came to me like four years ago like, "I got this kid MF Doom and he wants RZA to do a verse or beat for him. He said I have "x" amount of dollars, can you try to make it happen?" The money was real low - probably around five or seven thousand dollars - and I knew RZA wasn't going to do it but I asked anyway because Devin is a friend of mine. So when I asked RZA at first he was like, "Who?" Then he was like, "How much?" He didn't even know who the dude was and he said no. And I know Doom probably took it personal at the time or whatever. But it was a basic business thing for RZA - the money was right and he was mad busy at the time. So when I started doing this project that was one of the songs I had in mind. I wanted to bring these two cats together, because we were already working with Doom and Ghost. But to me, Doom's shit mixes a lot better with RZA than Ghostface. They are both on the same vibe, as RZA has his whole Bobby Digital alter ego. So I wanted to do some Bobby Digital meets some Metal Fingers/MF Doom. But I wanted it to be on a RZA beat.

MVRemix: You said you got Ras Kass and GZA too? That's crazy right there.

Dreddy Kruger: Yeah, they are two of the best lyricists in the game. They are two of the most respected emcees from the East and West Coast. And I have them on two tracks together, not even one. One track is just them two and another one there is about four people on it.

MVRemix: Who is doing the production on the album?

Dreddy Kruger: The production is being handled by RZA's top disciple, Bronze Nazareth - he did the bulk of the album. He did 9 out of the 15 songs and RZA did the Doom track. I was looking for RZA's sound from '93 to '96 with this album. If you are familiar with RZA's shit now, he is past that sound already. He is doing something else, but I found that sound in his top disciple. I literally listened to 500 beats from Bronze Nazareth already and the more I listened, the more I said, 'Damn, this shit sounds like RZA.' So Bronze did the bulk of it, RZA did one beat, Allah Mathematics did one and this new cat under the Wu named Preservation did about three. He also did the background behind the Jim Jarmusch infomercials. So all the production is handled by Wu-Tang elements. This album isn't going to sound like a Cannibal Ox or Aesop Rock album with the El-P beats. I am bringing them niggas into our world.

MVRemix: Was this album a big cut and paste job, or did some of the artists get in the studio and work together?

Dreddy Kruger: That is a good question. Like I told you, some of these niggas didn't even know each other, and there was a lot of that on here. A lot of these cats had no clue who each other were. I got one track with Casual from Hieroglyphics, Vordul Mega from Can Ox, Roc Marciano from The UN and Tragedy Khadafi from Queens Bridge. None of these niggas know each other, yo. (Chuckles)

MVRemix: That's a combo right there.

Dreddy Kruger: Wait until you hear it! The chemistry is amazing because I picked out the beats and I hand picked the emcees. This is an A&R's project. I knew these niggas would sound good together just from following them and listening to their music. And another thing, I would have never been able to do a project like this if it wasn't for this digital world with the MP3's, internet and all of that. Because none of these dudes were ever in the same room - none of them. Sean Price is on a song with U-God, C-Rayz and Prodigal Sunn - and those are the only cats on the album who probably know each other. That is, except for U-God, because he doesn't know Sean Price and C-Rayz - he never met them dudes. So I was basically getting their MP3's and arranging them in the studio. But it wasn't that difficult, because the hardest part was getting niggas to give me their verses on time. Because I got this whole project done within a three month time frame. It was extremely quick and I had no clue I would get it done that quick. I was looking at next year some time, originally when I started. But some niggas were getting back to me real quick. I told them about the project and they were excited, so they got it back to me in a matter of days.

MVRemix: The album has a nice little buzz right now, because I don't think the track listing has been leaked yet, so cats are talking about which emcees should be paired up.

Dreddy Kruger: And that's what I wanted to do. I wanted to hold the track listing off to the very last minute to create some mystique. I wanted cats to be like, "Damn, I wonder who is rapping with who?" First of all, if you see GZA and Del on the list of emcees on the album, you know they ain't gonna sound right together. Thats two completely different types of Hip-Hop. But Del and Aesop - that is crazy, because they are one in the same.

MVRemix: How did you get Jim Jarmusch on the album?

Dreddy Kruger: Jim is a legend in the independent film making world. I actually introduced Jim to RZA. I have known Jim for years and he is apart of everything we have been doing for the past couple of years. So it made perfect sense that he would be on the album too. I had niggas calling me like, "Yo, you got Jim Jarmusch on there?" They didn't even say anything about the music. They just wanted to know what Jim was doing on there. I just gave Jim some quotes to narrate that relate to music and thinking.

MVRemix: I know you are also working on two more projects with La The Darkman and and Bronze Nazareth. Can you tell us about them?

Dreddy Kruger: Both of them are going to drop their solo albums around January or February of '06. Both of their records are 85 percent done already. Once people hear this album, they are going to be asking about Bronze, like, "Who did these beats?" All the of the emcees who are on this album have been contacting him about beats. I know after this album cats will know who Bronze Nazareth is. He already has a little following already, because he did two tracks on RZA's Birth Of A Prince album. He is also going to be on GZA and Masta Killa's next album. He did a track on Afu-Ra's last album as well. But nobody knows that he also rhymes. He is also Caucasian. That is another thing nobody knows yet. He is also from Detroit. So its just something different I am trying to do. His album is tough, trust me. La - he is my nigga. He had an album out like seven or eight years ago. His new one is done, but he was just looking for an opportunity. Once I called him to be on this album, we started building, bong, bong, bong and he was like, "I need you to hook my album up too." So I threw him his own little imprint under Think Differently Music Group. That is the way I am doing it too. I'm not even signing artists directly. I am giving them their own situation, where you are in control of your own destiny. Just let me be the one to mold it and let it sound right. Your shit is hot already, but there is a certain type of element that goes into putting a good album together. I think brothers is lost on that element, which is another reason why I started getting into the A&R process. I was hearing niggas shit and was like, 'You don't sound right on that shit.'

MVRemix: Tell us your overall vision for Think Differently Music.

Dreddy Kruger: Just to put out good music man. I'm not trying to predict nothing, because that is my focus right now. I don't have a hidden agenda. I just want to put out good music and the ultimate goal is to be up in one of these big companies, and bring my original Hip-Hop sound back to the culture.

MVRemix: Anything else you involved in?

Dreddy Kruger: I got a big soundtrack thing that I may be doing on my label, but its not final yet. I'm also the A&R behind GZA's new album. But I just want niggas to go and get this album and then everybody will see what I'm trying to do and the direction I'm going in. Hopefully, this album will open the doors for me.

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"I had niggas calling me like, "Yo, you got Jim Jarmusch on there?" They didn't even say anything about the music. They just wanted to know what Jim was doing on there."