Goodie Mob - conducted by Bill "Low Key" Heinzelman
Goodie Mob is angry. Gipp, Khujo & T-Mo are tired of hearing about Cee-Lo's departure from the group and are fed up with being overlooked. In the interview below, conducted on June 9th, 2004 by DJ L.K. (Low-Key), Gipp & Khujo address such frustrations as well as their overall displeasure with the Hip Hop industry. Khujo & Gipp don't mince words when they discuss their anger with Hop Hop's lack of creativity or their distaste with a large portion of east coast Hip Hop.
With their fourth album "One Monkey Don't Stop No Show", Goodie Mob is out to prove all the naysayers wrong. The group is adamant about stepping out of Cee-Lo's shadow and forming their own legacy as dirty south legends.
MVRemix: So you guys got the album "One Monkey Don't Stop No Show" dropping on June 29th, so what was the final straw that made you guys want to drop the album without Cee-Lo and just move on?
Khujo: A lot of people was asking us, "man when you gonna put a record out"? Being on somebody's label where you can't drop an album is tough, so we was like "fuck that shit we some grown men". It was time for us to do this the right way. So Gipp was having conversations with Koch Records and this whole thing just came on in. So we got our own record label right now, Goodie Mob Records.
MVRemix: Now what some people are gonna say, as Cee-Lo mentioned in XXL, that you guys could have picked a lot of different titles for the album but this particular one brings controversy and attention. Therefore, it is a good marketing ploy to build up hype for the album. So how do you respond to claims like that?
Khujo: Hey man, people are gonna say what they wanna say. Ain't nobody got the right to name our album but us. "One Monkey Donít Stop No Show" has a lot of symbolism to it. What happened to us and Arista. What happened to us with one of our members leaving the group. Or what happened with me and the accident. It's a double edged sword, it's not just about one person. I could play dead tomorrow and the world ain't gonna stop. Arista can get us off their label but that ain't gonna stop Goodie Mob from going into the lab and coming up with some fire fire delicious that people are gonna love and respect. That one monkey donít stop no show is an old southern saying that our grand folk and our great great grand folk been saying. Now is just the time to use one monkey donít stop no show and bring it to life with the real monkey. Cause its true, one monkey donít stop no show. You can call into work and say "I donít think I'm gonna come in today", but your boss is gonna hang up on you. It's just going down man, we still socially, spiritually, cool and conscious about everything. So that don't stop the Goodie Mob show.
MVRemix: A lot of people feel that Cee-Lo was the driving creative force that fueled the Goodie Mob machine. Whether you agree or not, what element do you feel that you lost with Cee-Lo's departure on this album?
Gipp: Let me ask you a question. That's just like right now a person telling youÖyou done went to school to be a journalist right? That's like saying cause you donít work for a certain company anymore you cant do what you doing no more? All our records have been written by all of us, one hundred percent, all our members have put in. The whole group, the creation of Goodie Mob was done by Khujo. Cee-Lo was a part of the group musically and sonically. He wrote and brought different things to the group. But for the whole industry to ask us and questions us about who we are just cause one man didnít want to rap. See, thatís the thing, we didnít kick Cee-Lo out of the group, Cee-Lo does not want to rap right now. Cee-Lo wants to do the same thing Dre is doing right now. He wants to sing! Everybody can really get off our nuts about that shit! Cause you cannot make a grown man do something he doesnít want to. So about making a certain sound on the album, yeah we lost a certain sound. But at the same time too, all of us sung. If you listen to all of the records we were all singing. The difference is you heard Cee-Lo's voice more outward. But that doesn't mean he wrote what you heard, we all gave in and contributed to what Goodie Mob is today. I just feel thatís real disrespectful to the people that put records out. And not just Goodie Mob, with Outkast and so many other artists as well. There ain't too many other artists out there in this game with the same catalogue, as far as big dealing and doing as much work as we have. So one man not being involved in one record should not stop the whole show folks. And thatís why one monkey donít stop no show. It has nothing to do with just one man.
MVRemix: So let's talk about the album, who do you have on there as far as producers and guest appearances?
Khujo: We got some new kinfolk on this record as far as producers. We got the powerhouse Organized Noize on here. We got Yoda, big razzle dazzle Raymond Murray he up in the house on that. We got DJ Speedy, he also did the first single off of Gipp's solo album "Steppin Out". We got Bread & Water, some up and coming producers out of the dirty south, and Mark Twane. Triple 6 Mafia produced a cut on there called "1,2,3 Goodie". We got Jay Wells from the West Coast, he produced a song called "Play Your Flute" featuring Sleepy Brown & Kurupt Young Gotti. Cool AndreÖI mean we got some real southern folk on this thing man. We didnít go out of bounds and get all these high as producers out here. We didnít let that monkey stop our show. We just basically hand picked our producers we are dealing with.
MVRemix: Jay Wells, he hooked you up with Kurupt? Is that how he got on the first single?
Khujo: Well actually Kurupt been down with the Goodie for a minute, even before we knew Jay Wells. Thatís the family thing man.
MVRemix: I see y'all hooked back up with Organized Noize for this album, which will make true Goodie Mob fans happy. So do you think Organized Noize gets the credit they deserve considering they produced some of the best southern albums ever for you guys and Outkast?
Gipp: Naw they donít get the credit they deserve! But like I said, they really the ones that started the dirty south movement. The whole pride about being from the south, the whole music thing about how our music is not gonna be like everybody else's. We gonna use instrumentation and we gonna use harmony and melody in our music. We gonna sing in our music. That was us man. I think the only reason is cause they from the south. If they was from New York or the west they would have gotten all the praises. But since they from the south they donít get the same love and respect that everybody else does. And its always been like that man. That's why groups like us will never do music like everybody else. Cause to a certain extent we came in saying we gonna change, we gonna make people love what we do and we did that. And we still here, we still making music together. So to a certain extent we aint done what we set out to do, now its about continuing on with the legacy. One monkey donít stop no show is just the next chapter in the Goodie Mob legacy. And its because of all the stuff we had to go through, as far as being discredited and not being recognized as one of the best that ever came. About not being recognized for having one of the best live shows people have ever seen. I feel the same disrespect they feel (Organized Noize) a lot of times when I'm making music. Cause people have always came at us with those sideway ass kind of questions. But at the end of the day we already made our mark in this game. That's why you have artists like Lil Jon, T.I., Bone Crusher and Killer Mike, because of the mark we set. They will never be able to saying nothing about the south without mentioning Goodie Mob or Outkast. They never can or never will. And as far as us being artists all we are doing is telling the truth like we always have. One monkey donít stop no show hurts because they know its true.
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"Let me ask you a question. That's just like right now a person telling youÖyou done went to school to be a journalist right? That's like saying cause you donít work for a certain company anymore you cant do what you doing no more? All our records have been written by all of us, one hundred percent, all our members have put in."